Thursday, March 30, 2023

April 2023 Del Air Rockhounds Calendar of Events

**Important Notice Regarding Our April 6 Meeting**

The Del Air Rockhounds will be meeting in the YAC - Youth Activities Center building for our April 6, 2023 meeting only. This is due to the church's scheduling needs for their Holy Week Celebrations beginning Sunday April 2 and running through Easter Sunday, April 9, 2023. Enter the parking lot off Superior St. as you normally do but this time follow the parking lot all the way down to the end where you come to a chain link fence. The Youth Activities Center is the last building on the right. There is plenty of parking and easy access to the building.

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Thursday April 6: General Meeting. 7:30 pm Y.A.C Bldg at Northridge U.M. Church
Sunday April 9: Easter. Color those eggs and fill those baskets!
Saturday April 15: Wire Weaving Class at the Dearborn's home
Thursday April 20: Board Meeting at the Dearborn's Home
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April 2023 Program:

Del Air Traveling Education Booth - Presented by the Del Air Education Team
Most members have not yet experienced the wonder and excitement that is our traveling education booth. This booth, consisting of our award winning and interactive volcano, sedimentary & metamorphic rock displays & educational children's games will be the subject of our April program. See how these displays come together to the delight and enjoyment of young and old alike. Our booth has traveled the west coast to as far north as Yakima, Washington to as far south as Long Beach, California and most everywhere in between. We proudly won the prestigious CFMS President's Award in 2018 for the most outstanding display of the year. We have consistently ranked in the top 2 most favorite activities at the CFMS Show & Convention in each of the years that we have participated (which is almost every year since 2010) as voted on by the general public. These rock displays were lovingly created and built by hand by club members Bob & Maxine Dearborn. Come join us for this informative presentation and learn how easy it is to participate so perhaps you too can volunteer to work a position at our next scheduled event.
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The Rockhound Dennis Miller Show

Dennis will fill us in on April's birthstone, the Diamond and will also provide a Stoddard Wells Tailgate field trip report as well as a new stepping stone of the month. Dennis asks all members to bring in something for Show & Tell each month to share with our members and guests.
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Upcoming Education Outreach Events:

Here are our currently scheduled Education Outreach events. Please put these on your calendar because we will need the membership's help in running these very busy booths.

April 1, 2023 - Chatsworth Nature Preserve Earth Day Open House Entry gate on Valley Circle Blvd (there is no physical address for this location) Go west on Plummer St past Topanga, past Farralone, past Shoup, past Baden until it curves around and becomes Valley Circle Blvd and watch for the signs Booth Set up: 8 am - Booth runs: 10 am to 2 pm One 10 x 10 Boutique Booth only

April 1, 2023 - West Hills 13th Annual Spring Fest Saturday April 1, 2023 - 10:00 am to 2:00 pm Shadow Ranch Recreation Center 22633 Vanowen St., West Hills CA 91307 One 10 x 10 Boutique Booth and one 10 x 10 educational booth

April 27, 2023 - Germain Academy 20730 Germain St. Chatsworth, CA Booth set up: TBD - Booth runs: TBD Booth theme: Volcano, Rock & Mineral

May 6 & 7, 2023 - Antelope Valley Gem & Mineral Society Annual Show Antelope Valley Fairgrounds - 2551 W Avenue H, Lancaster, CA 93536 This event is for our traveling education booth (volcano & rock displays) Booth set up is on Friday May 5th Noon to 9 pm Booth runs 10 am to 5 pm on both Saturday & Sunday May 5th & 6th

May 19, 2023 - Lorne Street School STEM Night 17440 Lorne St. Northridge, California 91325 Booth set up: 4:30 pm - booth runs - 5:30 to 7:00 pm Booth theme: Dinosaurs
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News of Upcoming Club Shows:

April 8-9, 2023 – Mariposa, CA Mariposa Gem and Mineral Show Mariposa County Fairgrounds, 5007 Fairgrounds Rd., Mariposa, CA Hours: Saturday 10 AM – 5 PM, Sunday 10 AM – 4 PM Contact: mgmc@sti.net Website: http://mariposagemclub.org

April 15-16, 2023 – Placerville, CA El Dorado County Mineral and Gem Society El Dorado County Fairgrounds, 100 Placerville Dr., Placerville, CA Hours: Saturday and Sunday 10 AM – 4 PM Treasures in the Rough Contact: office@edcmgs Website: http://edcmgs.org

April 22-23, 2023 – Thousand Oaks, CA Borchard Park, 190 N. Reino Rd., Thousand Oaks, CA Conejo Gem & Mineral Club Hours: Saturday 10 AM – 5 PM, Sunday 10 AM – 4 PM 46th Pageant of a Thousand Gems Jewelry, Gems, Minerals, Fossils, Rocks, Hobby Supplies, Exhibits, Demonstrations, Door Prizes, Silent Auction, Plant Sales and Youth Activities Free Admission and Free Parking Contact: conejogemandmineral@gmail.com, mrmikerh@gmail.com Website: https://cgamc.org

April 22-23, 2023 – Santa Cruz, CA Santa Cruz Mineral and Gem Society Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium, 307 Church Street, Santa Cruz, CA 95060 Hours: Saturday 10 AM – 5 PM, Sunday 10 am – 4 pm The show features displays, fun activities, and loads of rocks, minerals, crystals, gems, jewelry, and lapidary arts for sale. Browse the bargains and pick up some great gifts. That’s April 29th and 30th at the Civic in downtown Santa Cruz. Contact: scruzmgs@gmail.com Website: http://www.scrockngem.org
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Shop Day Report - Saturday March 25th

Our shop day on Saturday March 25, 2023 @ Jeff Dengroves home was another huge success! In addition to instructors Jeff Dengrove, Chris Ward, Bob Knox & LaVere Schmidt we also had members Dan Farber, Anita Lichtman, Debbie Schoenmann, Dr. Oh, Emmy Silverman and guest Kyle Morris in attendance. Machines in use were the large slab saw, trim saw, grinder, two Genie cabochon machines and the Barranca contour polisher. Many beautiful stones were cut, slabbed, trimmed, cabbed and polished by everyone. Anita put the finishing touches on some free-form cabs of tourmaline in lepidolite. Emmy contour polished a slab of petrified wood and a huge chunk of onyx. Dr. Oh cabbed several small pieces of sodalite and quartz. Dan used the grinder on a big piece of Big Sur jade and then contour polished the surface. Guest Kyle made a beautiful oval cabochon out of a nodule of Big Sur Jade and the end result was near perfect considering this was his first time using the Genie. It was a beautiful, rain-free day. We started at 10 am and wrapped up at 4 pm. A great time was had by all. Stay tuned for news of our 2nd quarter shop day sometime near the end of June.
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Wire Wrap Class Report - Saturday March 11th

The Del Air Club had its beginner wire wrap class for its members and it was a total success. Christine Schmidt taught us how to wrap many shapes of rock and make them into a very nice pendant. Of the nine members who took part in the class, all were able to make two nice pendants. Christine’s instructions were easy to follow and we all had a good time making our own jewelry. This was an extra bonus for being a Del Air Club member and if you didn’t take advantage of it, YOU REALLY MISSED OUT! Thank you Christine for a great time and showing us how to make something new!
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CFMS SHOW AND CONVENTION

JUNE 23-25, 2023 - LODI GRAPE FESTIVAL GROUNDS
413 E. LOCKEFORD ST., LODI, CA 95240
Hours: Friday & Saturday 10 AM – 5 PM, Sunday 10 AM – 4 PM
Educational Exhibits, Speakers - Adults $6, Kids 12 & under FREE
Free admission to MILITARY Active, Veterans and their Dependents with valid Military ID card.
For information: rocksbob@sbcglobal.net - Dealer information: slchaisson@yahoo.com
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Wednesday, February 22, 2023

March 2023 Del Air Rockhounds Calendar of Events

Thursday March 2: General Meeting                                                                                                           7:30 pm in our regular meeting room at Northridge United Methodist Church 

Sunday March 12: Daylight Savings Time Begins                                                                                        Set those clocks ahead one hour.

Thursday March 16: Board Meeting                                                                                                               At Bernadette Friedman's Home

Friday March 17: St Patrick's Day                                                                                                              Wear your green or you'll get pinched

Saturday March 25: Shop Day at Jeff Dengrove's Home                                                                              

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General Meeting Thursday March 2, 2023 - 7:30 pm

TGMS – Not Your Typical Rock Show.

The Tucson Gem and Mineral Society knows how to put on a great show. This society was the first to bring together the hobby enthusiast, the curator/professionals and the general public for this annual four day event. After 68 years, it is the largest, oldest and most prestigious gem and mineral show in the world. This year the theme was “Silica, Agates & Opal & Quartz, Oh My!”

Located at the Tucson Convention Center, attendees will find approximately 250 dealers selling a variety of minerals, fossils, jewelry, and lapidary. Throughout the show there are lectures and symposiums. Jaw-dropping world class exhibits from private collections, major universities and museums are on display.  Other exhibit cases, (both competitive and non-competitive) round out this mix.    

This month Mary Pat Weber will provide us with a visual treat of the highlights of this recent event and why this show rocks!

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The Rockhound Dennis Miller Show

Dennis will fill us in on March's birthstone; Aquamarine, and will also provide Quartzsite report part 2. Dennis asks all members to bring in something for Show & Tell each month to share with our members and guests.

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West Hills 13th Annual Spring Fest

Saturday April 1, 2023 - 10:00 am to 2:00 pm                                                                                              Shadow Ranch Recreation Center                                                                                                            22633 Vanowen St., West Hills CA 91307

The Del Air Rockhounds have been invited to participate as a vendor in the 13th annual West Hills Spring Fest. This is a first time event for us. We will have two (2) 10 x 10 pop-ups. One will strictly be an educational booth with our kids games, touch and feel and our dino/ice age reproductions. The other will feature our boutique items, spin-a-wheel, grab bags, jewelry and other items for sale. Set-up for the booth will be at 8:30 am and the event runs from 10:00 am to 2:00 pm. As always, we are seeking club members to volunteer their time to help run the booth. Please see Chris Ward, the Dearborns or Shellie Van Winkle 

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The Ventura Club will be hosting their annual show on Saturday and Sunday, March 4 & 5, 2023. This is always a great show at a super great location, the Ventura County Fairgrounds, right on the beach!

As in the past, The Del Air Rockhounds will have our educational booth at the show for the entire weekend featuring our famous Volcano, Igneous and Sedimentary Rock displays with touch and feel rocks and educational games for kids and adults alike. Please find the time to attend this fun event and see what we do outside our regular monthly meetings. Looking forward to seeing you all there.

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 “Pyrite Decay” is one of the biggest problems for mineral collectors. Minerals that are made of iron and sulfur can have this problem. The two most common minerals are pyrite and marcasite. For reasons that scientists have not been able to fully understand, the sulfur and iron in these minerals combine with oxygen and hydrogen. The sulfur reacts to become sulfuric acid and the stinky gas called hydrogen sulfide. “Hydrogen sulfide” smells like rotten eggs. If you have pyrite or marcasite in your collections and it is decaying, you will be able to smell the sulfur! Open a drawer with pyrite in it and sniff. When this chemical reaction happens, the pyrite and marcasite specimens will first turn dark and lose their shiny metallic luster. Over time you will begin to see yellow and white crusts form. The crusts will be crumbly and will rub off very easily. In the worst case, the specimen will actually fall apart! As the specimens deteriorate, the acids created will attack your specimen labels, too. The paper will turn brown and very  brittle. Scientists don’t know how to stop or even control pyrite decay. There are two things that are known that can help you:

1.   When one pyrite or marcasite specimen deteriorates, it can cause other specimens nearby to deteriorate, too. If you have a number of pyrite and marcasite pieces, keep them separated from one another. If you have a specimen that is beginning to deteriorate, remove it from the collection immediately.

2.   Remember that one of the chemicals created by pyrite decay is the gas called hydrogen sulfide. Keep your specimens in a place where the fumes can’t build up. On an open shelf is a good option. In other words, good air circulation helps.

Many mineral collectors report that pyrite specimens that are more of a darker greenish color are much more likely to change and fall apart from pyrite disease. Avoiding adding pyrite specimens that are darker in color is smart. Bright, brassy, metallic pyrite crystals are much less likely to have pyrite disease. There are some pyrite specimens, like the great cubes and groups of cubes from Spain, that don’t seem to get pyrite disease. The bright, shiny, metallic pyrite specimens from Peru also seem to not break down with this disease. 

Used with permission. Diamond Dan Publications. Mini-Miner Monthly, June 2022, via The Strata Data, 2/2023. Courtesy AFMS March 2023 Newsletter

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HOW TO CLEAN SILVER ARTICLES - YOU NEED:

1 - LITER WATER TO BOIL

1 - TABLESPOON BORAX POWDER (can be found in supermarket laundry aisle) If you can not find the borax you can use baking soda.

1 - TABLESPOON SALT

1 - PIECE OF ALUMINUM FOIL

DIRECTIONS:

Bring water to boil, pour into a glass bowl or container, add borax, salt and dissolve. Place aluminum foil in water. Place your silver article in water - it must touch the foil. Tarnish will be gone in 10 seconds or so. Heavy tarnish may take one or two times in the water. Heavy tarnish may look like it has not been cleaned. Remove from water and rub with a soft cloth and it should wipe off the tarnish.

NOTES:

What is silver tarnish? It is silver sulfide and comes from sulfur gasses in the air over time. Sterling silver contains 92.5% silver and 7.5% copper. This copper makes the sterling silver tarnish faster than pure silver. Remember, every time you remove tarnish, you are also removing a bit of the silver. Silver plate items have a very thin layer of silver and can wear away over time. Another type of home made silver polish is cream of tartar or baking soda and water. Make into a paste and rub on the silver. Use an old toothbrush for grooves. Rinse clean and wipe dry. Commercial silver polishes may have a tarnish retardant in it? Check the label. 

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Wednesday, January 25, 2023

February 2023 Del Air Calendar of Events

Thursday February 2: General Meeting

7:30 pm in our regular meeting room at Northridge United Methodist Church 

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Tuesday February 14: Valentine’s Day

Remember your loved ones on this day!

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Thursday February 16: Board Meeting

At the Dearborn’s Home

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Monday February 20: President’s Day

Happy Birthday George and Abe.

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February’s Special People:                                                                                                                          Happy Birthday to:    

05: Ann Richardson;    11: Bob Knox;    16: Emmy Silverman;    25: Christine Schmidt

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General Meeting Program - Thursday February 2, 2023 - 7:30 pm

Tips & Tricks For Tumbling Stones - Presented by Jeff Dengrove

Come and join us as club vice president, Jeff Dengrove, gives us a PowerPoint presentation on the tips and tricks for tumbling stones. Learn the techniques necessary to get the best polish and shine on your tumbled stones. Plus…club secretary, Bob Dearborn will also be giving a short presentation on how to clean Silver the easy way. Hope to see you all there.

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The Rockhound Dennis Miller Show

Dennis will fill us in on February’s birthstone; Amethyst and will also provide Quartzsite & Refugio reports. He may have a new stepping stone to show off as well. Dennis asks all members to bring in something for Show & Tell each month to share with our members and guests.

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Thursday, December 29, 2022

January 2023 Del Air Calendar of Events

Sunday January 1: New Years Day                                                                                                          Happy New Year to one and all.

Thursday January 5: General Meeting                                                                                                         7:30 pm in our regular meeting room at Northridge United Methodist Church             

Monday January 16: Martin Luther King Jr. Day                                                                                          We should all have a dream!

Thursday January 19: Board Meeting                                                                                                             At Shellie Van Winkle’s home.

Saturday January 28: Del Air Annual Whale Bone Trip                                                                                See Article

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January’s Special People - Happy Birthday to:    

05: Jeff Silverman                                                                                                                                          09: Jeff Dengrove                                                                                                                                          16: Kai Kalma, Junior Member

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General Meeting Thursday January 5, 2023 - 7:30 pm                                                                          Magical Rainbow Obsidian of Davis Creek

VGMS member Terry Wilson will recount a fun CFMS trip to Davis Creek, where the group sampled all of the rainbow obsidian collecting locations currently allowed in this remote corner of California. She will also show you how to slab and cab this special type of obsidian to bring out the best of its optical properties. She will have a table display of rough, slabbed and cabbed material to show you in person what pictures alone cannot do. Terry is Program Chair of the Ventura County Gem & Mineral Society. Her main interest is slabbing and cabbing, and sometimes silversmithing to give her cabs a place to land.

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The Rockhound Dennis Miller Show

Dennis will fill us in on January’s birthstone; Garnet. Dennis asks all members to bring in something for Show & Tell each month to share with our members and guests.

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Del Air Rockhound’s Annual Whale Bone Field Trip

It’s that time of the year again. Time to get into your cars and travel about 100 miles down the 101 Ventura Freeway to the Refugio Beach exit in Santa Barbara. We’re hunting fossil whale bones, beach agates, the beautiful San Franciscan Shale and many other colorful rocks. Low tide begins just a few minutes after 10 am. Dress in layers and don’t forget to bring yourself a picnic lunch and beverages. There are no stores in the immediate vicinity of the beach. This is a hugely popular trip every year and we regularly enjoy a big turnout. Bring your rock hammer and a sturdy canvas bag or bucket to carry your found treasures. If you’ve never been before, our Field Trip Chair, Jeff Dengrove, will be there with samples of previously found whale bone to show you what to look for. There is a fee to park at California State Beaches, usually $10, but the parking pass can be used at as many State Beaches you wish to visit that same day and there are at least two more within a couple of miles in either direction from Refugio. Save the date! Hope to see you all there.

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WHITE BUFFALO TURQUOISE 

As you all may know Maxine is very fond of Turquoise, among many other things! In our shopping here and there we see more and more of this White Buffalo Turquoise and thought you might like to know a little more about it. White Buffalo Turquoise is found in only one mine worldwide, the Dry Creek Mine in Nevada. The mine is located on the Shoshone Indian Reservation near Battle Mountain. It was discovered only recently, in 1993. It is said that its name comes from Native Americans in the area, who believe that the stone “is as rare as a white buffalo.” It is believed to form like “normal turquoise,” with the exception of the absence of copper (which makes the turquoise blue), iron (which makes it green), or zinc (which leads to yellow-green turquoise) Because of it rarity, it is also believed that white howlite is sometimes sold as white buffalo turquoise, perhaps by accident by the uniformed, or perhaps intentionally. We know at times we have questioned a piece of “White Buffalo Turquoise” for sale and the seller has said “ Sometimes this is called Howlite“. So be careful out there and look closely at your rocks.                                                    Submitted by: Bob Dearborn

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QUARTZSITE SHOW DATES 2023

Desert Gardens ShowGrounds - Jan 1 - Feb 28, 2023

Prospector’s Panorama - Jan - Feb  2023

Tyson Wells Rock & Gem Show - January 6 - 15, 2023

57th Annual QIA Pow Wow  Gem & Mineral Show -  Jan 18 -22, 2023

Tyson Wells Sell-A-Rama - Jan 20 -29, 2023

Quartzsite Sports, Vacation & RV Show - Jan 21 - 29, 2023

Tyson Wells Arts & Crafts Show - Feb 3-12, 2023

Gold, Treasure & Craft Show QIA - Feb 10 - 12, 2023

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Thursday, November 24, 2022

December 2022 Del Air Calendar of Events

Thursday December 1: Annual Holiday Party & Potluck                                                                                  6:30 pm in our regular meeting room at Northridge United Methodist Church

Sunday December 11: Chatsworth Kiwanis Holiday Parade & Festival                                                        See article 

Thursday December 15: Board Meeting                                                                                                          At the Dearborn’s home

Sunday December 18: Hanukkah Begins                                                                                                      It’s gonna be eight crazy nights!!

Sunday December 25: Christmas Day                                                                                                       Santa is Coming!

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December General Meeting: Our Annual Holiday Party - Members Only

“It’s A Pearl Party Potluck”. We will be presenting a video, “Pearls - The Documentary” as well as a complimentary “Del Air Wish Pearl Kit” to all paid members where you can harvest your own pearl from an actual oyster and make a beautiful pendant. We have made up a total of 50 kits. We will also be holding elections for our 2023 Board of Directors. We hope to see you all there for our year end party and potluck.

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The Rockhound Dennis Miller Show

Dennis will fill us in on December’s birthstones; Tanzanite, Zircon and Turquoise. He will also bring in a new stepping stone he created. Dennis asks all members to bring in something for Show & Tell each month to share with our members and guests.

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News From the CFMS - www.cfmsinc.org    

THERE WILL BE A 2023 SHOW!! 

After speaking with several societies in their area and finding no takers, the Executive Committee reluctantly decided that CFMS needed to hold a no-host show for 2023. As all are aware we were unable to have our traditional show in 3 of the previous 5 years–in 2018 although a club in northern California graciously invited us to hold a Directors Meeting at their show, as a Federation we were not part of their show except for the Endowment Fund table. COVID prevented us from having a show hosted or otherwise in 2020 or 2021. You can plan to be in Lodi June 23-25, 2023. The show committee is hard at work finalizing all the various forms so these can be posted to the CFMS website as soon as possible. The event will be held at the Grape Festival and Harvest Fair in Lodi, CA. This is the same site of a successful no-host show in 2015. First Vice President/President elect Bob Rush will be Show Chairman with Jim Barton acting as his assistant Show Chair. Unlike a hosted show, a no-host show doesn’t have a pool of club members to handle all the tasks involved. We are asking those in the nearby area to let Bob or Jim know how you can help. Volunteers will be needed to help with set up, security, admissions, demonstrations, etc. Most importantly all the clubs will have the opportunity to meet members of the public who could possibly become your future members. Bob plans to put the tables promoting membership at the front of the dealers building so these are the first thing visitors see when they enter the building. Be watching the newsletter for details and information as it evolves. The basic framework for 2023 was begun in 2021 so the committee is basically picking up where it left off when we had to cancel last time due to the uncertainties surrounding the pandemic. Here’s to yet another successful no-host show!

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The Art of Being the Meaningful Historian                                                                                                  By: Jennifer Haley, AFMS Historian - Oct 2022 AFMS Newsletter 

As Historians, you have a meaningful job and are a great value to your organization. You are the keepers of all things memorable and significant. You are the storytellers of the past, for today, and the storytellers for the future generations of historians who will be thumbing through your files to celebrate the joys of the earth sciences, and the practice of lapidary arts and crafts. Think of your file boxes as gift boxes given to you, and the gift boxes you are creating to give to the future of our hobby someday. I thought this might be a good time to begin talking to you about the many ways you can take care of your society and federation historian files. Over the many years there have been society, federation and AFMS historians. Lots of boxes and even metal cabinets have been passed from one historian to another over generations of time. This accumulation of so much history can produce a sense of anxiety and a quandary of wondering how to manage not only the space to hold the material, but how to protect it and how to find what you are looking for. Some have asked if it’s even valuable enough to hold onto so much accumulated material. Especially for federations and the AFMS, transporting all the files from a retiring historian to someone new can pose a problem due to the vast traveling distances within their territory. There aren’t any hard-set rules of how to go about this, unless your society or federation states them. You or your society may have piles of file boxes that haven’t been looked at in ages. You might be wondering what condition they are in at this point and thinking, what on earth should be done with them. I am here to offer some good pointers and some creative ideas to help you out. There are so many treasures in those boxes when you are able to find them. Maybe not 100% that you might find personally interesting, but gems in the figurative sense and literally to inspire your members today. As historians, you are usually the backup for storing copies of your organization’s business meeting minutes and reports. You also have the special job of keeping copies of your organization’s newsletters, photos and news clippings of the year’s events and sometimes storing mementos. You are the person members will say at some time or another, “thank you so much for keeping the good memories and for remembering us.” There are different aspects of being a historian. There are various choices available to you about how you can take care of your files, along with ideas to make finding things in the future easier for you . Some organizations are digitizing their files, but if that’s not your cup of tea right now, that’s alright too. Stick with me over the next few months, and in between other historian articles for the AFMS, we’ll go through those boxes together.

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A Field Trip Teaser…Save the Date!

Our wildly popular annual Fossil Whale Bone field trip to Refugio Beach in Santa Barbara has found its date: Saturday January 28, 2023. Full details in the January bulletin.

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On Sunday December 11, 2022, the Del Air Rockhounds will once again have a booth at the Chatsworth Kiwanis Holiday Parade and Festival.. Set-up begins at 9:30 am and the event runs from 12:00 noon until 5:00 pm. Two of our core members, Shellie Van Winkle and Bernadette Friedman are out of town on this day and will not be able to work this event. So…even more than ever…we need club members to step-up and volunteer to help out at this event. We will have three 10 x 10 pop ups featuring the Spin-a-Wheel, grab bags, our jewelry, fossil and specimen boutique, touch and feel table, fossil reproductions, free educational game and more. Our booth will be on Canoga Ave just south of Devonshire St. in Chatsworth. Show your Del Air spirit and volunteer to help out. Please let Maxine Dearborn, Chris Ward or Bob Knox know of your intent to help out.

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